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I take it all the Bonds were from The United Kingdom, so there is no arguing that they are all suave and smooth. However, the lastest offering, Daniel Craig, does nothing for me at all. I don't think he is good looking enough to be bond, and he is far too masculine too be Bond, not that Bond wasn't masculine. He just didn't let that get in his way. He was a man, but was after women, which brought out his continental flare, which is sublte masculinity, not glaring. Craig is just too wrapped up in being a MAN. I watch Bond as a fantasy. Yes, he could kick the sugar out of you, but he was always a gentleman, smooth and cool. If I want to watch a MAN, I'll put on Schwartzenager, Stalone, or Willis. Bond is not in the same category.

Now, as to Pierce. Yes, he has got IT, but he was never my favorite. I preferred Connery and Moore. Lazenby, Dalton, and Brosnan were all effective and deserve kudos for their portrayals, and thanks for the pics. I can certainly see why you like him so much.
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There's not all British. George Lazenby is an Austrailian, Pierce Brosnan is from Ireland.

The Brits, Sean Connery, Scottish, I bet nobody knew that, Roger Moore English likewise Daniel Craig and Timothy Dalton is Welsh.
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Oh! Well, with the exception of the Australian, I thought The United Kingdom ecompassed England, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland. But, that Aussie fooled me. I should have looked him up!
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Don't worry I had to double check I know he had lived in Australia. Pierce Brosnan doesn't count as British because he was born in the Republic of Ireland, I know what you mean though, we're not a million miles apart.
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Hey Alison, for all of us "geographically impaired" (me!) what countries comprise Great Britain. And what is the difference between Great Britain and the United Kingdom? ( :lol: :lol: :lol: feeble minds want to know)
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The British Isles, otherwise known as the United Kingdom is a union of the kingdoms of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (or Ulster).

Don’t ever refer to a Scottish, Irish or Welsh person as ‘English’ (unless you want to p**s-them-off. Ask Stuart!). They are fiercely proud if their national heritage and object strongly to being called ‘English’. They will accept the epithet ‘British’ in specific circumstances.

The British flag, or Union Jack - is a combination of the English red cross of St. George, the Scottish cross of St. Andrew and the Irish cross of St. Patrick. The red dragon of Wales was not included for some reason.

How this union was established and the sad and bloody fight for Irish independence you can research for yourself.

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Nancy, a brief synopsis, excuse me it's been years since I've been at school.

Wales has been governed over by English kings for approx 1000 years, since the Middle Ages.

Scotland is more complicated, there have been many battles, mostly won by the English, treachery on both sides. Scotland came to be ruled by the same King as England when their King James became King James of England too. He was the legitimate son of Mary Queen of Scots, who if she hadn't commited treason might of inherited the throne from Elizabeth herself one day. This was in 1603.

Then for a century Britain had a civil war and beheaded it's king, Oliver Cromwell ran the country as Lord Protector for 12 years. He was succeeded by Charles II who was invited back from France. Charles proved a successful king but his brother and successor James II was a Catholic who threw the country into disarray. He was overthrown by William of Orange and his wife Mary II who was James daughter but was a Protestant. They in turn were succeeded by Anne, Mary's sister.

In the meantime, James had a son, who by laws of the kingdom should have been king. He had considerable support from France and Scotland (traditional allies at this time) and both he and later his son (Bonnie Prince Charlie) both tried and failed to take the throne.

Finally in the reign of Anne there was an act that bound England and Scotland together and also strengthened the succession.

Ireland has been pillaged by a few of our kings, James II and William of Orange but it was Cromwell who was the most brutal. Today, Northern Ireland or Ulster choses to stay within the United Kingdom whilst Eire or the Republic of Ireland is it's own country. There have been many troubles because of this over the years. Religious disagreements/ wars aren't a new thing here. I don't think I'll ever understand why violence is committed when religion is involved.
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Thanks for the history lesson, I've been out of school much much longer than you! So Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales make up the United Kingdom. And The Republic of Ireland is independent of the UK. Now if I can just remember it after I wake up tomorrow (each day is a brand new day, you know :shock: :oops: :shock: :oops: )


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I'll test you on it tomorrow. I'm going to move this to it's own thread.

I'm curious, there's a little animosity, jealousy and wrangling in the Union. To listen to the news you wouldn't think the Scots liked the English or that the English like the Welsh. There are incidences in history that encourage prejudices. The English from the North aren't as hated as the ones from South by the Scots, Welsh or Irish. Some of this I know the reasons for but some I don't and I've incredibly simplified our history. What I want to know is does the same thing exist in America. Are there any states that don't relate happily to others for reasons of history, political, industrial relations etc (not football, baseball or else we'd be here all day I'm sure).

A few years ago I read a book by Howard Zinn called A People's History of the United States, I liked it because it told your history in order and I understood which is quite an undertaking by the author to take on such a large subject and tell it well.

I won't believe any of you if you say it is all sweetness and light over the pond.

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How about a little Gary Cooper?

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metsfan wrote:Ty Hardin
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I don't think that a right-wing bigot would really be popular among most women. Despite his "good" looks.
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Well, Nick, I can't say that I have ever give Ty Hardin a second thought ideologically or aesthetically, but there is a fair career overview about him that touches on his wing-nut political side at this link:

http://neptsdepths.blogspot.com/2010/05 ... ardin.html
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