Scorsese & De Niro

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Dewey1960
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Scorsese & De Niro

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It's been twelve years since Martin Scorsese (arguably the finest director of his generation) and Robert De Niro (arguably the finest actor of his generation) worked together. That would have been CASINO in 1995. As a team they were responsible for groundbreaking films like MEAN STREETS, TAXI DRIVER, KING OF COMEDY, NEW YORK NEW YORK, RAGING BULL and GOODFELLAS. My question is: why haven't they done anything together since CASINO? Was there a falling out? Anybody know? Anybody care?
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I just can't get into Scorcese. Taxi Driver was interesting. But mostly he just makes movies that I can't get interested in watching. Too much of the tough guy thing!
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While I love Scorsese's film analysis and articals, I am not that big a fan of his films either. In fact, the only ones I like are "Mean Streets" (1973) which is a take off on Fellini's "I Vitelloni" and Bunuel's "Los Olividos", and "Raging Bull" (1980) with it's nods to earlier boxing classics like "Body and Soul" and "The Setup" crossed with "La Strada".

In those two films Scorsese pays homage and recycles lots of his favorite films with nods here and there to great actors and directors while building on the storylines. I also liked Taxi Driver and felt he and De Niro did an amazing job with that film. I really don't feel the same way about the rest of his work though. Much of it has great scenes and interesting parts that just never come together as a whole for me.

However, Scorsese knows his films and when ever you get to hear him talk about the movies he loves, he is such a pleasure to listen to. I wish he would do more DVD comentaries and film docs. like "My Voyage to Italy". I feel that is one of his greatest gifts.
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The only Scorsese fml that I REALLY like is CASINO, maybe because it is based on Chicago area mobsters in Vegas. I do like many of this commentaries. :wink:
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Mr. Arkadin wrote: In those two films Scorsese pays homage and recycles lots of his favorite films.
That's modern Hollywood, isn't it? It's not a film industry, it's a recycling plant.
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dfordoom wrote:
Mr. Arkadin wrote: In those two films Scorsese pays homage and recycles lots of his favorite films.
That's modern Hollywood, isn't it? It's not a film industry, it's a recycling plant.
Well, that's not quite what I meant. There is a difference between showing homage and blatantly stealing. I think In those two films Scorsese draws on his influences and mixes them with his "Little Italy" background to create something entirely new.

I may only like three of his dramas, but many directors would give their right arm to have made just one of those three.
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I see that Scorsese has not cast "Silence-"scheduled to shoot this summer in Canada. Maybe he'll team up De Niro with his current "golden boy," DiCaprio. They worked well together in "This Boy's Life."
Three of my favorite Scorsese movies that are somewhat over-looked are "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore" and "After Hours" and "The Last Waltz." The "music video" (with Scorsese's trademark "floating" camera) with The Band and The Staples performing "The Weight" is pure perfection...
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I would readily add to that list LIFE LESSONS, Scorsese's brilliant segment in the 1989 anthology film NEW YORK STORIES.
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Post by MikeBSG »

I don't know why Scorsese hasn't worked more with DeNiro in recent years. Maybe they feel they have done all they can together. (When "Casino" came out, a lot of reviews said the movie had a "seen it already" feel.)

Or it may be economic. Scorsese seems to take a while to get his films together, and DeNiro may have to work more often, leading to scheduling problems. Also too, DeNiro seems to have wanted to lighten his image in recent years, doing a lot of comedies and presenting himself as the image of New York City in the post-9/11 era. Both of these things would move against his working with Scorsese on the kind of films they used to make earlier, in my view.
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dfordoom wrote:I just can't get into Scorcese. Taxi Driver was interesting. But mostly he just makes movies that I can't get interested in watching. Too much of the tough guy thing!
Maybe you should look at Scorsese's Age of Innocence.
Not much tough guy stuff going on in there!

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