MUSINGS, PONDERINGS, RUMINATIONS AND FANCIES

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EP Millstone wrote: March 14th, 2023, 12:26 am
Bronxgirl48 wrote: March 13th, 2023, 9:13 pm EP, I cannot get the sound on that mind-blowing DuPont LYLAH. Drat!!!!! Lord have mercy, who knew this existed???? (Better Living Through Chemistry indeed lol) Thank you SO MUCH for uploading it! I will try to find some way to listen! . . .
Bronxgirl48,

I just watched the 1963 TV version. Not bad, IMO.

At one moment in the story, Svengaliesque director Loui Zakin (a Satanic Alfred Drake) barks orders for dressing his "Trilby": Elsie Brinkmann (Tuesday Weld):

"You, get to Jean-Louis! I want him to dress her -- and make no mistake, it will always be in white! . . . For Friday, the back . . . will beeee . . . like this (drawing a U-shape with his hands on Elsie's back) . . . If you can't get it ready by Friday, let him refit one of the Rita Hayworth . . . uhh, one of the Kim Novak things, right?"

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Oh my God, lol, is that an actual quote or is that some of your creative genius, Millstone? Does he actually mention Kim Novak?
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EP Millstone wrote: March 14th, 2023, 12:26 am
Bronxgirl48 wrote: March 13th, 2023, 9:13 pm EP, I cannot get the sound on that mind-blowing DuPont LYLAH. Drat!!!!! Lord have mercy, who knew this existed???? (Better Living Through Chemistry indeed lol) Thank you SO MUCH for uploading it! I will try to find some way to listen! . . .
Bronxgirl48,

I just watched the 1963 TV version. Not bad, IMO.

At one moment in the story, Svengaliesque director Loui Zakin (a Satanic Alfred Drake) barks orders for dressing his "Trilby": Elsie Brinkmann (Tuesday Weld):

"You, get to Jean-Louis! I want him to dress her -- and make no mistake, it will always be in white! . . . For Friday, the back . . . will beeee . . . like this (drawing a U-shape with his hands on Elsie's back) . . . If you can't get it ready by Friday, let him refit one of the Rita Hayworth . . . uhh, one of the Kim Novak things, right?"

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Oh my God, lol, is that an actual quote or is that some of your creative genius, Millstone? Does he actually mention Kim Novak?
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Thompson wrote: March 14th, 2023, 1:02 pm
Bronxgirl48 wrote: March 13th, 2023, 8:36 pm Once again, I must give a shout-out to DOG DAY AFTERNOON which is playing at midnight tonight, EST (or 12:15 but tune in at 12 on the dot just to make sure you do not miss anything)

Those who haven't seen it, PLEASE DO NOT MISS. (along with 12 ANGRY MEN, I think it's Lumet's best)
Couldn't agree more about DOG DAY AFTERNOON. Talk about fast! Not one dull moment. Grabs you right from the get go and hangs on tight.


I love every performance, from major to minor, in DDA.
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I like Tuesday Weld in general but cannot imagine her in that kind of role.

So for better or worse re: camp and star value, Aldrich's instincts were more on point, lol.
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Bronxgirl48 wrote: March 18th, 2023, 12:19 pm Oh my God, lol, is that an actual quote or is that some of your creative genius, Millstone? Does he actually mention Kim Novak?
Bronxgirl48,

That's my transcript of the actual dialogue spoken by Alfred Drake who (as Louis Zakin) indeed mentions Kim Novak . . . five years before the movie adaptation starring Novak.
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I'll be darned!

Alfred Drake sounds like he would have been much more believable than Peter Finch. In this casting decision I think Aldrich was off base. Finch is always too much the gentleman, and without a dominating screen presence. (although he is a fine actor)
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Bronxgirl48 wrote: March 18th, 2023, 12:41 pm . . . Alfred Drake sounds like he would have been much more believable than Peter Finch. In this casting decision I think Aldrich was off base. Finch is always too much the gentleman, and without a dominating screen presence. (although he is a fine actor)
I intend to check out the 1968 adaptation tonight, so I'll see how Peter Finch compares to Alfred Drake whose dynamic performance as the Pygmalion-like Zakin was, IMO, outstanding.

The DuPont Show of the Week production was my introduction to Drake, whom I was familiar with only from caricatures of him by Al Hirschfeld. Broadway star Drake appeared in only two movies: Trading Places and the 1946 musical-comedy Tars and Spars.

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I always used to confuse Drake with Alfred Lunt.
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Intrepid37 wrote: March 18th, 2023, 10:41 am

An older guy saying he likes pretty girls is what I think we were talking about.

I was just wondering if that's allowed anymore. I think it's illegal in England now - and maybe Australia too.

I can't vouch for other countries, but I think here it would be okay, as long as
the guy doesn't have his tongue out halfway down to the ground.
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Woah, that'd be a long tongue, huh.
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That's the power of excessive lust for the barely post-pubescent--it has the ability to change anatomy.
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I've been dissing poor Sam Jaffe for his role as a dirty old man that it's time to show him
in a more respectful light. Going from eyeing young lovelies to trying to ensure universal peace.
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And then of course, those of us of a certain age (as they say) probably had our first exposure to Sam Jaffe while watching the 'Ben Casey' TV series back in the day.

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And I assume many of us here are of this same "certain age", aren't we.

(...btw...Vince Edwards...was this guy hirsuite or WHAT?!...Henry Fonda had nothin' on this guy when it came to this sort'a thing, Bronxie!) ;)
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CinemaInternational wrote: March 11th, 2023, 12:10 pm
Bronxgirl48 wrote: March 9th, 2023, 11:52 am

Speaking of painful slogs, try getting through Woody Allen's ANOTHER WOMAN. Just try.
I saw that one through ...twice. I thought it was very powerful and extremely well acted, but then again I liked a lot of Woody Allen's films, although the last section of his directorial period has been hit and miss.
I also like ANOTHER WOMAN. I've only seen it once, but I would watch it again.

I saw it for the first time in the early months of the pandemic, and I found myself thinking about it for days and feeling a bit depressed about the story. So, yes, I agree that is a very powerful movie.

I was particularly impressed by Sandy Dennis's performance as the former friend of Gena Rowlands's character.
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