Noir Alley

[Bronxgirl48]

Knowles also played Lindsay Woolsey in the 1958 MAME. He was (very gentlemanly) "after" Mame Dennis although she, foolishly I thought, turned him down for oil man Forrest Tucker.

[nakanosunplaza]

I like Patrick Knowles he looked like Errol Flynn and there were great personnal friends He was also a great looking man.

[Bronxgirl48]

They were? Wow, that's great info, nakano.

[Hibi]

Knowles also played Lindsay Woolsey in the 1958 MAME. He was (very gentlemanly) "after" Mame Dennis although she, foolishly I thought, turned him down for oil man Forrest Tucker.

Forrest had the goods, or so they say!

[Hibi]

Despite Doreen Lang's American accent I do believe she's actually British, which would give her even more of an edge with Hitch.

Interesting!

[Hibi]

So did anyone see Claudette's right side in The Secret Heart today????

I wonder if June favored her left side and was ticked she had to be photographed from her right side in their scenes together?

It's true about profiles though. Everyone has a good (and less than good) profile. Mine is my right!

Whoops! I got a day ahead of myself. CLAUDETTE DAY IS TODAY! (WED). I happened to turn TCM on today to escape cable news channel commercials and there was WITHOUT RESERVATIONS!!!!! And I DID see Claudette's right side!!!! (But it was in longshot crossing the street with John Wayne and Don DeFore!)

Hope someone reports on The Secret Heart today!

[Hibi]

Despite Doreen Lang's American accent I do believe she's actually British, which would give her even more of an edge with Hitch.

Actually, she was born in New Zealand! (according to imdb). And married to Arthur Franz (I didn't know that).

[jamesjazzguitar]

I like Patrick Knowles he looked like Errol Flynn and there were great personnal friends He was also a great looking man.

Yes, they became good friends when they both were under contract at Warner Bros. They were in three films together: The Charge of the Light Brigade where he gets the girl (DeHavilland), Four's a Crowd where they both go after two gals, DeHavilland and Rosiland Russel (on loan from MGM) and Knowles ends up again with DeHavilland, and The Adventures of Robin Hood (where, one could say Knowles' Will Scarlett, doesn't care about getting the gal, and Flynn ends up with Maid Marian, as played by DeHavilland.

Note Knowles getting the gal verses Flynn works because while one could say no one was as handsome as Errol Flynn, Knowles could hold his own.

My favorite with Knowles is the Leslie Howard, Bette Davis and DeHavilland screwball comedy It's Love I'm After (1937). In this film, DeHavilland and Knowles characters are engaged, but DeHavilland idolizes star stage actor Leslie Howard and believes she is in love with him. Knowles goes to Howard, who was a close friend of Knowles' father, asking him to convince Dehavilland that he isn't worth loving. Howard goes to her families' estate (yea, another tales of the super rich comedy), and it is all downhill from there.

If one hasn't seen this film I highly recommend it.

[Bronxgirl48]

Knowles also played Lindsay Woolsey in the 1958 MAME. He was (very gentlemanly) "after" Mame Dennis although she, foolishly I thought, turned him down for oil man Forrest Tucker.

Forrest had the goods, or so they say!

Yeah, lol.

But he was ugly.

[Bronxgirl48]

So did anyone see Claudette's right side in The Secret Heart today????

I wonder if June favored her left side and was ticked she had to be photographed from her right side in their scenes together?

It's true about profiles though. Everyone has a good (and less than good) profile. Mine is my right!

Whoops! I got a day ahead of myself. CLAUDETTE DAY IS TODAY! (WED). I happened to turn TCM on today to escape cable news channel commercials and there was WITHOUT RESERVATIONS!!!!! And I DID see Claudette's right side!!!! (But it was in longshot crossing the street with John Wayne and Don DeFore!)

Hope someone reports on The Secret Heart today!

I forgot about WITHOUT RESERVATIONS, didn't catch it this time around. I only remember Cornel Wilde popping up as a Native American.

June had no good side. (All the young men in THE SECRET HEART call her "beautiful" -- are they blind?)

[Bronxgirl48]

Despite Doreen Lang's American accent I do believe she's actually British, which would give her even more of an edge with Hitch.

Actually, she was born in New Zealand! (according to imdb). And married to Arthur Franz (I didn't know that).

Oops, my mistake -- thanks for the correction! I didn't know about Arthur Franz either...(I always remember him as the good scientist from the supremely creepy 1953 INVADERS FROM MARS)

[Bronxgirl48]

THE SECRET HEART I guess could be classified as family-noir. Claudette gives her usual fine performance but frankly nothing out of the ordinary is particularly demanded of her. June is creepier than I remember as the troubled step-daughter. "Highlight" is the usually stodgy old Walter Pidgeon kicking up his heels with Colbert. The movie has a moody look and tone but (and I think either Hibi or kingrat originally brought this up) this being an MGM production, the resolutions are annoyingly upbeat.

[ElCid]

Patrick Knowles (another of my under-the-radar screen dreamboats) plays Claudette's husband. Boy I'd hate to be away from him for so long....

I first became aware of Patrick Knowles in The Big Steal, probably my favorite Robert Mitchum movie. Although I did recall him in Mame when I watched it again later. Knowles played his role very well and made a major contribution to the movie. Although he had some stiff competition from Mitchum, Jane Greer, William Bendix and Ramon Novarro.
Of course, Steal is not a Noir, but an amusing crime/mystery set in Mexico. Even if Mitchum was not available for all the Mexico scenes - that jail thing you know.

[Bronxgirl48]

Next week's OUT OF THE FOG is NOT "proto-noir", no matter what the "Czar" says.

It is a rather pretentious, stage-bound, Actor's Studio type drama teeming with tedious social symbolism. John Garfield gives one of his best performances as the vicious, predatory Goff. Fine cast.

Just revisited OUT OF THE FOG; I still stand by my above comments. Although I don't agree with EM's "proto" interpretation (I prefer to use this for STRANGER ON THE THIRD FLOOR, also THE SEA WOLF) I was validated by Muller when he talked about the Group Theatre, social/political symbolism, the film's overall "artful theatricality" (i.e. talky and stage-bound).

Maybe OOTF falls into a unique category of its own: proletarian noir, lol.

By the way, Eddie Albert's character reminded me a bit of A PLACE IN THE SUN'S Shelley Winters -- "We'll be perfectly happy in a three room apartment, strolling along the boardwalk, just watching you in a beautiful dress will be excitement", etc. etc. With all the water around I would have liked to see Ida drown him, then run away with Goff, lol.

[Andree]

Hard to get too excited about OOTF. Another off the rack Warner Bros. crime flick. Garfield is good, but
his character is just the usual smart mouth gangster. I had to wonder why anyone of Garfield' s apparent
affluence would be down on the pier getting five bucks a week for protection. One of the main reasons
to keep watching is to have the satisfaction of seeing the two fishermen bump off Goff and they just barely
manage to do that. But all's well that ends well. The other parts of the picture are rathe dull and unimpressive.
Ho-hum. Not one of Eddie's better picks.