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Re: poetry

Posted: February 13th, 2023, 9:15 pm
by Thompson
Well gee wiz, thanks fellas. ‘blush’

At college we had to study Prufrock. I truly enjoyed learning that poem.

The most chilling lines to me are — “That is not it at all. That is not what I meant at all.”

Re: poetry

Posted: February 14th, 2023, 2:31 am
by Thompson
Ezra Pound I can’t follow, can’t follow James Joyce, can’t follow Eliot’s The Waste Land. I do like Bukowski, EP, I’ve read the cannon, but his prose is superior to his poetry, IMO. John Berryman with his Dream Songs I dig. But I’m not a poet. I’ve written three decent poems in 66 years, that’s divisible, three into 66. Or is it 66 into three?

Re: poetry

Posted: February 15th, 2023, 12:21 pm
by laffite
Thompson wrote: February 14th, 2023, 2:31 am Ezra Pound I can’t follow, can’t follow James Joyce, can’t follow Eliot’s The Waste Land. I do like Bukowski, EP, I’ve read the cannon, but his prose is superior to his poetry, IMO. John Berryman with his Dream Songs I dig. But I’m not a poet. I’ve written three decent poems in 66 years, that’s divisible, three into 66. Or is it 66 into three?
Nobody can understand The Waste Land.

Re: poetry

Posted: February 15th, 2023, 5:27 pm
by Andree
That's why ol' T.S. was gracious enough to provide notes for TWL. After reading those everything will be revealed and be
crystal clear.


Ignotum per ignotius

und so weiter, perfide Missouri!

Shabuma, Shebuma, ditty, ditty

cornstarch.

Re: poetry

Posted: February 15th, 2023, 7:05 pm
by EP Millstone
A Dash of Nash
(Ogden, that is)

The Cow
The cow is of the bovine ilk
One end is moo, the other, milk

Reflections on Ice-Breaking
Candy
Is dandy
But liquor
Is quicker

The Octopus
Tell me, O Octopus, I begs
Is those things arms, or is they legs?
I marvel at thee, Octopus
If I were thou, I'd call me Us

Crossing the Border
Senescence begins
And middle age ends
The day your descendents
Outnumber your friends

Requiem
There was a young belle of Natchez
Whose garments were always in patchez
When comment arose
On the state of her clothes
She drawled, When Ah itchez, Ah scratchez!

Re: poetry

Posted: February 15th, 2023, 7:33 pm
by Swithin
Thompson wrote: February 14th, 2023, 2:31 am I do like Bukowski, EP, I’ve read the cannon, but his prose is superior to his poetry, IMO.
Many years ago in London (1987) I went to a movie because it sounded like the sort of film that might not be come to NY. I was deeply moved by it and can honestly say it's the best Belgian film I've ever seen. (It actually did come to the U.S. as the first Flemish-Belgian film to do so.)

It's called Crazy Love and is based on writings by Charles Bukowski. The film was championed by a few American celebrities but was considered too controversial for the masses. (Necrophilia has never been a crowd pleaser.)

Here's one of the best scenes, and particularly touching, in the context of the film:


Re: poetry

Posted: March 1st, 2023, 5:03 pm
by laffite
A Thunderstorm In Town

Thomas Hardy

She wore a 'terra-cotta' dress,
And we stayed, because of the pelting storm,
Within the hansom's dry recess,
Though the horse had stopped; yea, motionless
We sat on, snug and warm.

Then the downpour ceased, to my sharp sad pain,
And the glass that had screened our forms before
Flew up, and out she sprang to her door:
I should have kissed her if the rain
Had lasted a minute more.

'''

Re: poetry

Posted: March 1st, 2023, 7:19 pm
by Swithin
To continue the Hardy connection, at the top of The Return of the Native, Hardy quotes this poem by Keats, which is an excerpt from Endymion:

“To Sorrow I bade good-morrow,
And thought to leave her far away behind;
But cheerly, cheerly,
She loves me dearly;
She is so constant to me, and so kind:
I would deceive her
And so leave her,
But ah! she is so constant and so kind."

Re: poetry

Posted: March 1st, 2023, 7:55 pm
by laffite
Swithin wrote: March 1st, 2023, 7:19 pm To continue the Hardy connection, at the top of The Return of the Native, Hardy quotes this poem by Keats, which is an excerpt from Endymion:

“To Sorrow I bade good-morrow,
And thought to leave her far away behind;
But cheerly, cheerly,
She loves me dearly;
She is so constant to me, and so kind:
I would deceive her
And so leave her,
But ah! she is so constant and so kind."
Constance and kindness wins out. It's almost quaint in our own days. Thanks.

And to return to Hardy, for one of favorite poems ever, I was going to do this one later, but why not now, being in the vein:

To Louisa in the Lane

by Thomas Hardy

Meet me again as at that time
In the hollow of the lane;
I will not pass as in my prime
I passed at each day's wane.
— Ah, I remember!
To do it you will have to see
Anew this sorry scene wherein you have ceased to be!

But I will welcome your aspen form
As you gaze wondering round
And say with spectral frail alarm,
" Why am I still here found?
— Ah, I remember!
It is through him with blitheful brow
Who did not love me then but loves and draws me now!"

And I shall answer: " Sweet of eyes,
Carry me with you, Dear,
To where you donned this spirit-guise;
It's better there than here!"
— Till I remember
Such is a deed you cannot do:
Wait must I, till with flung-off flesh I follow you.

///

Re: poetry

Posted: March 2nd, 2023, 1:31 pm
by laffite
Swithin, did you delete a poem here? I read it last night and was going to follow up today because I did not understand it fully with first reading. I still liked it even without full comprehension.

Re: poetry

Posted: March 2nd, 2023, 2:13 pm
by Swithin
laffite wrote: March 2nd, 2023, 1:31 pm Swithin, did you delete a poem here? I read it last night and was going to follow up today because I did not understand it fully with first reading. I still liked it even without full comprehension.
I quoted a John Donne poem for you, but it was in the horror film discussion in another thread. It's in the "Really..." thread, as part of the horror film conversation there.

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Re: poetry

Posted: March 15th, 2023, 10:00 pm
by Thompson
Swithin wrote: March 2nd, 2023, 2:13 pm
laffite wrote: March 2nd, 2023, 1:31 pm Swithin, did you delete a poem here? I read it last night and was going to follow up today because I did not understand it fully with first reading. I still liked it even without full comprehension.
I quoted a John Donne poem for you, but it was in the horror film discussion in another thread. It's in the "Really..." thread, as part of the horror film conversation there.

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This has to be one of the twenty threads Poetry on the new SSO format. Classical music we'll have to keep for Laffite and his fellow long hairs, maybe I should be in charge of this forum.

Re: poetry

Posted: March 16th, 2023, 3:54 am
by laffite
Thompson wrote: March 15th, 2023, 10:00 pm
Swithin wrote: March 2nd, 2023, 2:13 pm
laffite wrote: March 2nd, 2023, 1:31 pm Swithin, did you delete a poem here? I read it last night and was going to follow up today because I did not understand it fully with first reading. I still liked it even without full comprehension.
I quoted a John Donne poem for you, but it was in the horror film discussion in another thread. It's in the "Really..." thread, as part of the horror film conversation there.

viewtopic.php?p=175028#p175028
This has to be one of the twenty threads Poetry on the new SSO format. Classical music we'll have to keep for Laffite and his fellow long hairs, maybe I should be in charge of this forum.
:smiley_shock:

:D

Re: poetry

Posted: March 16th, 2023, 9:13 am
by LostHorizons
Love the Mastroianni avatar, Laffite! :D

Re: poetry

Posted: March 16th, 2023, 9:15 am
by LostHorizons
Love the Mastroianni avatar, Laffite! :D