Re: I Just Watched...
Posted: March 28th, 2024, 7:59 am
"WOMAN HATER" also tickles me. It shows up in A LOT of old MGM FILMS.
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"WOMAN HATER" also tickles me. It shows up in A LOT of old MGM FILMS.
NO LIES DETECTED.Bronxgirl48 wrote: ↑March 27th, 2024, 6:08 pm JAGGED EDGE -- annoying '80's courtroom thriller with Glenn Close as possibly the world's dumbest lawyer. The obnoxiously manipulative script tries to "liven" things up with foul-mouthed Robert Loggia but only falls flat.
"I used to fantasizeLorna wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:54 am
FOOD OF THE GODS**, on the other hand, THAT is a QUEER FILM. It is a QUEER PREMISE. It is QUEERLY SHOT, it is ODD. it ain't right and it is very much against WHAT NATURE INTENDED.
**It was the first example that popped into my head. i probbaly could think of a better one given time but it's rainy this morning and the pollen count is high
Lorna wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:24 amNO LIES DETECTED.Bronxgirl48 wrote: ↑March 27th, 2024, 6:08 pm JAGGED EDGE -- annoying '80's courtroom thriller with Glenn Close as possibly the world's dumbest lawyer. The obnoxiously manipulative script tries to "liven" things up with foul-mouthed Robert Loggia but only falls flat.
One fun thing of note (probably the only fun thing of note about JAGGED EDGE), GLENN CLOSE goes through (something like) FOUR WARDROBE CHANGES during what is supposed to be a single scene during the summation of the case. it was supposed to be set over four days, but they edited it into one.
I noticed in Love Me Or Leave Me, they changed pansies to dandies in the lyric.Swithin wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 3:44 am As an older gay man, I use the word "queer" in the way that African Americans may use the "N" word. I'm on the alumni committee of my university and also work with young actors and find the word "queer" is used by younger men almost as much as they use the word "gay." I don't think straight people would be comfortable using it.
I don't think the word "pansy" is used anymore. The gay lyricist Lorenz Hart used it in one of his best songs, ca. 1930:
"Ten cents a dance, pansies and rough guys, tough guys who tear my gown..."
"Sometimes I think, I found my hero, but it's a queer romance..."
Larry Hart's sophisticated lyrics have often been tampered with. The original (and my favorite) version of "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered" was sung by Vivienne Segal in the original Broadway production of Pal Joey. The song includes these lines:Hibi wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:04 amI noticed in Love Me Or Leave Me, they changed pansies to dandies in the lyric.Swithin wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 3:44 am As an older gay man, I use the word "queer" in the way that African Americans may use the "N" word. I'm on the alumni committee of my university and also work with young actors and find the word "queer" is used by younger men almost as much as they use the word "gay." I don't think straight people would be comfortable using it.
I don't think the word "pansy" is used anymore. The gay lyricist Lorenz Hart used it in one of his best songs, ca. 1930:
"Ten cents a dance, pansies and rough guys, tough guys who tear my gown..."
"Sometimes I think, I found my hero, but it's a queer romance..."
Dandy was another euphemism for gay, as was fop. Both were/are more centered on style and dress than sexual orientation, but to audiences of the day, the implication would be clear.Swithin wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 10:07 amLarry Hart's sophisticated lyrics have often been tampered with. The original (and my favorite) version of "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered" was sung by Vivienne Segal in the original Broadway production of Pal Joey. The song includes these lines:Hibi wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:04 amI noticed in Love Me Or Leave Me, they changed pansies to dandies in the lyric.Swithin wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 3:44 am As an older gay man, I use the word "queer" in the way that African Americans may use the "N" word. I'm on the alumni committee of my university and also work with young actors and find the word "queer" is used by younger men almost as much as they use the word "gay." I don't think straight people would be comfortable using it.
I don't think the word "pansy" is used anymore. The gay lyricist Lorenz Hart used it in one of his best songs, ca. 1930:
"Ten cents a dance, pansies and rough guys, tough guys who tear my gown..."
"Sometimes I think, I found my hero, but it's a queer romance..."
Until I could sleep where I shouldn’t sleep;
And worship the trousers that cling to him;
Horizontally speaking he’s at his best;
Vexed again, perplexed again, thank God I can be oversexed again.
Ella Fitzgerald's recording cuts the top one but retains the other three. The film version, sung (dubbed) by Rita Hayworth, cuts them all.
I was in a production of Carousel in 6th grade (which means age 11). It was a daring choice for 10 and 11-year-olds, in an NYC public school. I played a sailor and a fisherman, so was in all the choruses. There's one line that I didn't realize was changed until I saw a professional production:txfilmfan wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 10:43 amSwithin wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 10:07 amLarry Hart's sophisticated lyrics have often been tampered with. The original (and my favorite) version of "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered" was sung by Vivienne Segal in the original Broadway production of Pal Joey. The song includes these lines:
Until I could sleep where I shouldn’t sleep;
And worship the trousers that cling to him;
Horizontally speaking he’s at his best;
Vexed again, perplexed again, thank God I can be oversexed again.
Ella Fitzgerald's recording cuts the top one but retains the other three. The film version, sung (dubbed) by Rita Hayworth, cuts them all.
Even R&H lyrics had to be changed every now and then. For example, the Soliloquy from Carousel had to be changed to remove the word b****** from the stage version's original lyric (flabby-faced, pot-bellied, baggy-eyed b****** became bully instead). The "clean" versions also stop short in the same song later on when Billy utters a "what the hell" - usually becomes a "what the -" in a clean version.
Edit: I had to LOL at this. Even the board's autocensor is triggered by R&H lyrics. Never knew until now...
What was censored? B-stard?txfilmfan wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 10:43 amDandy was another euphemism for gay, as was fop. Both were/are more centered on style and dress than sexual orientation, but to audiences of the day, the implication would be clear.Swithin wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 10:07 amLarry Hart's sophisticated lyrics have often been tampered with. The original (and my favorite) version of "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered" was sung by Vivienne Segal in the original Broadway production of Pal Joey. The song includes these lines:
Until I could sleep where I shouldn’t sleep;
And worship the trousers that cling to him;
Horizontally speaking he’s at his best;
Vexed again, perplexed again, thank God I can be oversexed again.
Ella Fitzgerald's recording cuts the top one but retains the other three. The film version, sung (dubbed) by Rita Hayworth, cuts them all.
Re: Hart's lyrics, many of them never would get past the radio censors of the day, so to get airplay (or on film) they had to be "adjusted." Same with Cole Porter's songs (like the cocaine reference in I Get a Kick Out of You).
Even R&H lyrics had to be changed every now and then. For example, the Soliloquy from Carousel had to be changed to remove the word b****** from the stage version's original lyric (flabby-faced, pot-bellied, baggy-eyed b****** became bully instead). The "clean" versions also stop short in the same song later on when Billy utters a "what the hell" - usually becomes a "what the -" in a clean version.
Edit: I had to LOL at this. Even the board's autocensor is triggered by R&H lyrics. Never knew until now...
YesHibi wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 11:45 amWhat was censored? B-stard?txfilmfan wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 10:43 amDandy was another euphemism for gay, as was fop. Both were/are more centered on style and dress than sexual orientation, but to audiences of the day, the implication would be clear.Swithin wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 10:07 am
Larry Hart's sophisticated lyrics have often been tampered with. The original (and my favorite) version of "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered" was sung by Vivienne Segal in the original Broadway production of Pal Joey. The song includes these lines:
Until I could sleep where I shouldn’t sleep;
And worship the trousers that cling to him;
Horizontally speaking he’s at his best;
Vexed again, perplexed again, thank God I can be oversexed again.
Ella Fitzgerald's recording cuts the top one but retains the other three. The film version, sung (dubbed) by Rita Hayworth, cuts them all.
Re: Hart's lyrics, many of them never would get past the radio censors of the day, so to get airplay (or on film) they had to be "adjusted." Same with Cole Porter's songs (like the cocaine reference in I Get a Kick Out of You).
Even R&H lyrics had to be changed every now and then. For example, the Soliloquy from Carousel had to be changed to remove the word b****** from the stage version's original lyric (flabby-faced, pot-bellied, baggy-eyed b****** became bully instead). The "clean" versions also stop short in the same song later on when Billy utters a "what the hell" - usually becomes a "what the -" in a clean version.
Edit: I had to LOL at this. Even the board's autocensor is triggered by R&H lyrics. Never knew until now...