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Dargo wrote: August 28th, 2023, 7:19 pm
Swithin wrote: August 28th, 2023, 6:14 pm
And two years later he would play his greatest role and earn that salary!
This is the second time in the last few days that you've mentioned on these boards how much you really love the film 'Murder, He Says', Swithin.

Can you explain why this is? Ya see, while I've always liked it and found it reasonably funny, I don't think I would ever place it on a list of my favorite ten or fifteen comedies.

And in addition, I find it somewhat surprising that you particularly like this film so much.

(...guess it might be because I've always thought of you as more the "Noel Coward drawing room" comedy aficionado)
I didn't say that it was on my ten or 15 best film list! It appeals to my sense of wackiness, has a great cast, and a funny script.

Btw, In my love of film are many mansions, not so much film noir, though. I would say that my favorite film that Fred MacMurry is in, would be The Trail of the Lonesome Pine. But I'm not a huge fan of him as an actor.
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Swithin wrote: August 28th, 2023, 7:25 pm
Dargo wrote: August 28th, 2023, 7:19 pm
Swithin wrote: August 28th, 2023, 6:14 pm
And two years later he would play his greatest role and earn that salary!
This is the second time in the last few days that you've mentioned on these boards how much you really love the film 'Murder, He Says', Swithin.

Can you explain why this is? Ya see, while I've always liked it and found it reasonably funny, I don't think I would ever place it on a list of my favorite ten or fifteen comedies.

And in addition, I find it somewhat surprising that you particularly like this film so much.

(...guess it might be because I've always thought of you as more the "Noel Coward drawing room" comedy aficionado)
I didn't say that it was on my ten or 15 best film list! It appeals to my sense of wackiness, has a great cast, and a funny script.

Btw, In my love of film are many mansions, not so much film noir, though. I would say that my favorite film that Fred MacMurry is in, would be The Trail of the Lonesome Pine. But I'm not a huge fan of him as an actor.
So, to be clear, you were pulling our leg when you said: And two years later he would play his greatest role and earn that salary!

I assume most people would say his 'greatest role' was one year later: Double Indemnity. That film by Paramount earned the salary of both MacMurray and Barabara Stanwyck since it cost < 1 million and made over 5 million at the box office. (and yea, I know that you might not feel that way since you're not much of a fan of Babs).
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What's the name of that film with the picture above: MacMurray, Marjorie Main and Peter Whitney??
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Lily Garland wrote: August 27th, 2023, 9:19 am Platinum Blonde (1931)

with Jean Harlow, Robert Williams and Loretta Young. Currently available on YouTube, I had never seen it before. Terrific performance from Robert Williams, who died shortly after it was released - he would have had a great career I'm sure. A witty script by Robert Riskin and a precode ending.
I tried to watch this film yesterday but abandoned it because it was so static; microphones in flower pots...that sort of thing...kept the cast standing together like actors in a stage play. Disappointing though an early film from Capra I expected more.
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jamesjazzguitar wrote: August 28th, 2023, 5:16 pm
Cinemaspeak59 wrote: August 28th, 2023, 1:56 pm The Princess Comes Across (1936) starts as a romantic comedy but halfway through takes a turn into Agatha Christie-style whodunnit (and a good one at that). An added delight: it takes place on an ocean liner. Everything works quite nicely thanks to Carole Lombard as a struggling Brooklyn actress impersonating a Swedish princess (Hello, Greta Garbo!), and Fred MacMurray as a concertina-playing passenger who joins Lombard in detective work.
In two Lombard \ MacMurray films, MacMurray plays a musician. In Swing High\Swing Low his character plays the Trumpet. MacMurray did play the Saxophone. I wonder if that had anything to do with these roles. The Princess Comes Across is an interesting film with its blend of comedy and drama.

An unrelated fact about MacMurray: In 1943, his annual salary had reached $420,000, making him the highest-paid actor in Hollywood and the fourth-highest-paid person in the nation.
Due to the cost of WWII, US tax brackets from that era would shock most of us today. In 1943, the highest bracket was $200K, and that bracket was taxed at 94%. Brackets, as near as I can tell, were all the same regardless of filing status.

The lowest bracket was 23%, for incomes between $0 and $1999.

So when Gary Merrill, playing Bill Simpson in All About Eve, tells Eve that "most of it (the money) would go to taxes," you can see what he means. Though the brackets had lowered just a bit by 1950, the top bracket ($400K+) was still an eye-watering 84%.

It's why so many A-list stars formed corporations, to shelter their income.
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jamesjazzguitar wrote: August 28th, 2023, 8:12 pm
Swithin wrote: August 28th, 2023, 7:25 pm

So, to be clear, you were pulling our leg when you said: And two years later he would play his greatest role and earn that salary!

I assume most people would say his 'greatest role' was one year later: Double Indemnity. That film by Paramount earned the salary of both MacMurray and Barabara Stanwyck since it cost < 1 million and made over 5 million at the box office. (and yea, I know that you might not feel that way since you're not much of a fan of Babs).
To be clear, he's not one of my favorite actors, no more than Babs is one of my favorite actresses. But I like many of their movies. I do think he's better at comedy, and in that context think his role in Murder, He Says is about as good a performance as he's capable of giving. Regarding Double Indemnity, for those many who would say that's his greatest role, that is the kind of thing they can say. I don't like the movie. I'm not a noir-ist, though I like some noirs.
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jamesjazzguitar wrote: August 28th, 2023, 8:12 pm I assume most people would say his 'greatest role' was one year later: Double Indemnity. (and yea, I know that you might not feel that way since you're not much of a fan of Babs).
Well I am a fan of Babs and like noir but I dislike Double Indemnity. MacMurray is mostly the reason, I just don't care for his characterizations.
But I was surprised how much I liked him in 1940's Remember The Night also with Stanwyck.
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NORA PRENTISS (1947) KENT SMITH's best role...

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Allhallowsday wrote: August 29th, 2023, 12:14 pm NORA PRENTISS (1947) KENT SMITH's best role...

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Nora Prentiss is one of my favorite roles for Kent Smith, but I would say my favorite is in The Dammed Don't Cry. In that role one see's the character grow-up but still retain his basic decency. A classic secondary noir protagonist. (secondary, since Crawford is the main noir protagonist).

I may be bias, since The Dammed Don't Cry is also my favorite Crawford film.
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jamesjazzguitar wrote: August 29th, 2023, 1:37 pm ...
Nora Prentiss is one of my favorite roles for Kent Smith, but I would say my favorite is in The Dammed Don't Cry. In that role one see's the character grow-up but still retain his basic decency. A classic secondary noir protagonist. (secondary, since Crawford is the main noir protagonist).

I may be bias, since The Dammed Don't Cry is also my favorite Crawford film.
My original thought was "my favorite" but then remembered CAT PEOPLE and CURSE OF 2 of my favorite VAL LEWTON produced Horror films... and I think Kent is also in THE NIGHT STALKER (1972) ...

In any case, ANN SHERIDAN is always good!
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Swithin wrote: August 28th, 2023, 6:14 pm
jamesjazzguitar wrote: August 28th, 2023, 5:16 pm
Cinemaspeak59 wrote: August 28th, 2023, 1:56 pm The Princess Comes Across (1936) starts as a romantic comedy but halfway through takes a turn into Agatha Christie-style whodunnit (and a good one at that). An added delight: it takes place on an ocean liner. Everything works quite nicely thanks to Carole Lombard as a struggling Brooklyn actress impersonating a Swedish princess (Hello, Greta Garbo!), and Fred MacMurray as a concertina-playing passenger who joins Lombard in detective work.
An unrelated fact about MacMurray: In 1943, his annual salary had reached $420,000, making him the highest-paid actor in Hollywood and the fourth-highest-paid person in the nation.
And two years later he would play his greatest role and earn that salary!


My favorite Fred MacMurray movie is A Millionaire For Christy.


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Swithin wrote: August 29th, 2023, 7:18 am
jamesjazzguitar wrote: August 28th, 2023, 8:12 pm
Swithin wrote: August 28th, 2023, 7:25 pm

So, to be clear, you were pulling our leg when you said: And two years later he would play his greatest role and earn that salary!

I assume most people would say his 'greatest role' was one year later: Double Indemnity. That film by Paramount earned the salary of both MacMurray and Barabara Stanwyck since it cost < 1 million and made over 5 million at the box office. (and yea, I know that you might not feel that way since you're not much of a fan of Babs).
To be clear, he's not one of my favorite actors, no more than Babs is one of my favorite actresses. But I like many of their movies. I do think he's better at comedy, and in that context think his role in Murder, He Says is about as good a performance as he's capable of giving. Regarding Double Indemnity, for those many who would say that's his greatest role, that is the kind of thing they can say. I don't like the movie. I'm not a noir-ist, though I like some noirs.
I believe Fred's greatest role was as the smarmy LT Tom Keefer in The Caine Mutiny. Fred had the perfect screen persona for such a role since he come off as so likeable, it takes a while to see that he is a major snake!
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jamesjazzguitar wrote: August 29th, 2023, 4:47 pm I believe Fred's greatest role was as the smarmy LT Tom Keefer in The Caine Mutiny. Fred had the perfect screen persona for such a role since he come off as so likeable, it takes a while to see that he is a major snake!
Nice! I'll watch that one next!
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TikiSoo wrote: August 30th, 2023, 8:20 am
jamesjazzguitar wrote: August 29th, 2023, 4:47 pm I believe Fred's greatest role was as the smarmy LT Tom Keefer in The Caine Mutiny. Fred had the perfect screen persona for such a role since he come off as so likeable, it takes a while to see that he is a major snake!
Nice! I'll watch that one next!
The cast give some of their best performances: In addition to MacMurray, Van, and Jose Ferrer. The funny thing is that Tom Tully was nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but he has a minor role in the film. Hey, I thing Tully is a fine actor, but I always found that strange. Bogie was nominated for Best Actor.
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Nominated, not won. Didn't Edmond O'Brien win that year for The Barefoot Contessa?
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