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kingrat wrote: February 12th, 2024, 6:57 pm Hey, Lorna, maybe you could start a "Cane River" line of designs featuring "Verdant Louisiana Green" and "Tang-Colored Orange"!

I believe your idea is late. It has been done.

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Masha wrote: February 12th, 2024, 10:45 pm
kingrat wrote: February 12th, 2024, 6:57 pm Hey, Lorna, maybe you could start a "Cane River" line of designs featuring "Verdant Louisiana Green" and "Tang-Colored Orange"!

I believe your idea is late. It has been done.

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Masha wrote: February 12th, 2024, 10:45 pm
kingrat wrote: February 12th, 2024, 6:57 pm Hey, Lorna, maybe you could start a "Cane River" line of designs featuring "Verdant Louisiana Green" and "Tang-Colored Orange"!

I believe your idea is late. It has been done.

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1. I'm not gonna lie, the one on the left is ****ing CUTE. And I'm not ENTIRELY mad at the green (i don't get the looong drawstring)- although it does look like something SHELLEY DUVALL would wear to the premiere of an ALTMAN FILM, ca. 1977.

2. I should have noted this back in the post, but DARK SKINNED PEOPLE look AMAZING in colors that would make the rest of us look like FRESHMEN ON THE FIRST DAY OF CLOWN COLLEGE. CANDY PINK, ROAD CONE ORANGE, CHARTREUSE- these colors are off-limits to your average non-melanated person, but on the actresses in the film, they looked AMAZING, and it was a genuinely effective artistic choice to have them both wearing the same BOLD color in the scene where they fight about how "different" they are.
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(for those who can't make it out, the word is "CHARTREUSE.")
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you guys i'm sorry. i was gonna try laying off the MURDER, SHE REVIEWS but then- starting last night and finishing this morning- I watched the SEASON THREE episode CROSSED UP- aka "the one where Jessica overhears the murder plot on the phone during a hurricane."

I tell you what, this is one tidy little 40-something minutes of television- one of the sharpest and best-written episodes of the series- with the sole problematic element being, HOLY S**** AMOS TUPPER IS ESPECIALLY STUPID on numerous occasions in the episode, he ends up endangering JESSICA to a HEAD-SCRATCHING DEGREE more than once, but in an especially galling instance towards the end...


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nonetheless, it's a really strong episode, and was interestingly enough directed by DAVID HEMMINGS who had guested on the previous episode THE CORPSE FLEW FIRST CLASS: he has a REAL KNACK for DRAMA and VISUALS**, as well as comic timing- there is a lot more ELABORATE CAMERA MOVEMENT and SET-UPS than in any other episode of MsW (I almost wonder if this caused any problems taking time and money to set up, hence he wasn't tasked with more directing assignments)

**there is a terrific shot during the climax where we see THE KILLER eerily reflected in a fish-eye mirror while going upstairs to get JESSICA

I know I go on quite a bit about the sillier aspects of MsW, but honestly, this is one solid episode of TV- I am very surprised it's not in the IMDB TOP TEN EPISODES of the show.

A BONUS FOR CLUE FANS: COLLEEN CAMP has a fun role and THE EXTERIOR ENTRY TERRACE OF THE MANSION is the same one used in the film (and the same one that stood in for STATELY WAYNE MANOR)- you get a rare chance to check out the interior of the home which has since been destroyed.
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Lorna wrote: February 13th, 2024, 10:25 am
1. I'm not gonna lie, the one on the left is ****ing CUTE.
One advantage to that outfit is that you can be some person's melon-colour baby ...
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txfilmfan wrote: February 13th, 2024, 10:11 am
Masha wrote: February 12th, 2024, 10:45 pm
kingrat wrote: February 12th, 2024, 6:57 pm Hey, Lorna, maybe you could start a "Cane River" line of designs featuring "Verdant Louisiana Green" and "Tang-Colored Orange"!

I believe your idea is late. It has been done.

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Lorna wrote: February 13th, 2024, 4:29 pm you guys i'm sorry. i was gonna try laying off the MURDER, SHE REVIEWS but then- starting last night and finishing this morning- I watched the SEASON THREE episode CROSSED UP- aka "the one where Jessica overhears the murder plot on the phone during a hurricane."

I tell you what, this is one tidy little 40-something minutes of television- one of the sharpest and best-written episodes of the series- with the sole problematic element being, HOLY S**** AMOS TUPPER IS ESPECIALLY STUPID on numerous occasions in the episode, he ends up endangering JESSICA to a HEAD-SCRATCHING DEGREE more than once, but in an especially galling instance towards the end...


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nonetheless, it's a really strong episode, and was interestingly enough directed by DAVID HEMMINGS who had guested on the previous episode THE CORPSE FLEW FIRST CLASS: he has a REAL KNACK for DRAMA and VISUALS**, as well as comic timing- there is a lot more ELABORATE CAMERA MOVEMENT and SET-UPS than in any other episode of MsW (I almost wonder if this caused any problems taking time and money to set up, hence he wasn't tasked with more directing assignments)

**there is a terrific shot during the climax where we see THE KILLER eerily reflected in a fish-eye mirror while going upstairs to get JESSICA

I know I go on quite a bit about the sillier aspects of MsW, but honestly, this is one solid episode of TV- I am very surprised it's not in the IMDB TOP TEN EPISODES of the show.

A BONUS FOR CLUE FANS: COLLEEN CAMP has a fun role and THE EXTERIOR ENTRY TERRACE OF THE MANSION is the same one used in the film (and the same one that stood in for STATELY WAYNE MANOR)- you get a rare chance to check out the interior of the home which has since been destroyed.

I never knew David Hemmings ever directed a MSW episode. I remember that one having a very suspenseful ending. Is that one where Jessica is laid up sick? I get some of the episodes mixed up. Was Jessica's house on the Universal lot? I would've loved to have lived in it! So homey.
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Hibi wrote: February 14th, 2024, 10:23 am


I never knew David Hemmings ever directed a MSW episode. I remember that one having a very suspenseful ending. Is that one where Jessica is laid up sick? I get some of the episodes mixed up. Was Jessica's house on the Universal lot? I would've loved to have lived in it! So homey.
CROSSED UP aired right after THE CORPSE FLEW FIRST CLASS, so it's two really strong eps back to back. insofar as I recall, they were the only time HEMMINGS worked on MsW.

yes, Jess "threw her back out"- which was a recurring bit on MsW.

No, the MURDER, SHE HOUSE is in MENDOCINO and it is still standing and is now a B&B and it looks GREAT.

https://www.blairhouse.com/
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Lorna wrote: February 14th, 2024, 10:31 am
Hibi wrote: February 14th, 2024, 10:23 am


I never knew David Hemmings ever directed a MSW episode. I remember that one having a very suspenseful ending. Is that one where Jessica is laid up sick? I get some of the episodes mixed up. Was Jessica's house on the Universal lot? I would've loved to have lived in it! So homey.
CROSSED UP aired right after THE CORPSE FLEW FIRST CLASS, so it's two really strong eps back to back. insofar as I recall, they were the only time HEMMINGS worked on MsW.

yes, Jess "threw her back out"- which was a recurring bit on MsW.

No, the MURDER, SHE HOUSE is in MENDOCINO and it is still standing and is now a B&B and it looks GREAT.

https://www.blairhouse.com/
Oh, wow. didn't realize that about the house! (am assuming the inside was a studio set?) Yeah, Jessica was always having back problems. LOL. That episode borrowed heavily from Sorry, Wrong Number.

It was given whenever Kate Mulgrew was in an episode she wound up being the killer, but I remember one where she wasn't, though she always played unpleasant characters...
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Hibi wrote: February 14th, 2024, 1:44 pm
Oh, wow. didn't realize that about the house! (am assuming the inside was a studio set?) Yeah, Jessica was always having back problems. LOL. That episode borrowed heavily from Sorry, Wrong Number.

It was given whenever Kate Mulgrew was in an episode she wound up being the killer, but I remember one where she wasn't, though she always played unpleasant characters...


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yeah, the interiors of JESSIE'S HOUSE were all shot on the UNIVERSAL LOT I imagine. CROSSED UP is, I think, the only extended look we get into her bedroom.

with KATE MULGREW, you have to consider her history with MRS. COLUMBO, which hard as it is to believe, was an ACTUAL THING THAT RAN ON NETWORK TV, and as good an actress as KATE MULGREW is, HOLY S*** that show SUCKED, and I think COLUMBO and MRS COLUMBO and MsW shared producers(?), so there is a chance they were atoning for THE ENTIRE EXPERIENCE OF HER STARRING AS MRS COLUMBO FOR NINE DREADNAUGHT-LIKE EPISODES by giving her juicy parts on MsW.
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Lorna wrote: February 14th, 2024, 2:46 pm
Hibi wrote: February 14th, 2024, 1:44 pm
Oh, wow. didn't realize that about the house! (am assuming the inside was a studio set?) Yeah, Jessica was always having back problems. LOL. That episode borrowed heavily from Sorry, Wrong Number.

It was given whenever Kate Mulgrew was in an episode she wound up being the killer, but I remember one where she wasn't, though she always played unpleasant characters...


[END quote]

yeah, the interiors of JESSIE'S HOUSE were all shot on the UNIVERSAL LOT I imagine. CROSSED UP is, I think, the only extended look we get into her bedroom.

with KATE MULGREW, you have to consider her history with MRS. COLUMBO, which hard as it is to believe, was an ACTUAL THING THAT RAN ON NETWORK TV, and as good an actress as KATE MULGREW is, HOLY S*** that show SUCKED, and I think COLUMBO and MRS COLUMBO and MsW shared producers(?), so there is a chance they were atoning for THE ENTIRE EXPERIENCE OF HER STARRING AS MRS COLUMBO FOR NINE DREADNAUGHT-LIKE EPISODES by giving her juicy parts on MsW.
The two Columbos had just three things in common: the name (at least for a while), the network, and the production studio. The original Columbo ended its NBC run in the late 1970s. NBC was in the ratings toilet by this time, and they were looking for anything they could get to right the ship. They (really, Fred Silverman) pitched the idea of a Columbo spin-off, and it was made by Universal, but the original Columbo producers wanted nothing to do with it. In fact, Mrs. C.'s name was changed (along with the show's title) after a disastrous reception from the first season.

Columbo itself was what we'd probably call a limited series these days - only 8 episodes or so per season. This was because it was part of a Universal package of mystery/detective shows that rotated through the year. Each show had an average of 8 episodes, and there would be 3 or 4 shows that would rotate weekly under the series umbrella title. They called this a wheel series. McCloud and McMillan & Wife were part of the rotation.
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Lorna wrote: February 14th, 2024, 2:46 pm
Hibi wrote: February 14th, 2024, 1:44 pm
Oh, wow. didn't realize that about the house! (am assuming the inside was a studio set?) Yeah, Jessica was always having back problems. LOL. That episode borrowed heavily from Sorry, Wrong Number.

It was given whenever Kate Mulgrew was in an episode she wound up being the killer, but I remember one where she wasn't, though she always played unpleasant characters...


[END quote]

yeah, the interiors of JESSIE'S HOUSE were all shot on the UNIVERSAL LOT I imagine. CROSSED UP is, I think, the only extended look we get into her bedroom.

with KATE MULGREW, you have to consider her history with MRS. COLUMBO, which hard as it is to believe, was an ACTUAL THING THAT RAN ON NETWORK TV, and as good an actress as KATE MULGREW is, HOLY S*** that show SUCKED, and I think COLUMBO and MRS COLUMBO and MsW shared producers(?), so there is a chance they were atoning for THE ENTIRE EXPERIENCE OF HER STARRING AS MRS COLUMBO FOR NINE DREADNAUGHT-LIKE EPISODES by giving her juicy parts on MsW.
LOL! I don't remember Mrs. Columbo!!!

I just checked imdb. Hilariously withering reviews.
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Hibi wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:24 pm
LOL! I don't remember Mrs. Columbo!!!
lucky you.
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txfilmfan wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:19 pm
Lorna wrote: February 14th, 2024, 2:46 pm
Hibi wrote: February 14th, 2024, 1:44 pm
Oh, wow. didn't realize that about the house! (am assuming the inside was a studio set?) Yeah, Jessica was always having back problems. LOL. That episode borrowed heavily from Sorry, Wrong Number.

It was given whenever Kate Mulgrew was in an episode she wound up being the killer, but I remember one where she wasn't, though she always played unpleasant characters...


[END quote]

yeah, the interiors of JESSIE'S HOUSE were all shot on the UNIVERSAL LOT I imagine. CROSSED UP is, I think, the only extended look we get into her bedroom.

with KATE MULGREW, you have to consider her history with MRS. COLUMBO, which hard as it is to believe, was an ACTUAL THING THAT RAN ON NETWORK TV, and as good an actress as KATE MULGREW is, HOLY S*** that show SUCKED, and I think COLUMBO and MRS COLUMBO and MsW shared producers(?), so there is a chance they were atoning for THE ENTIRE EXPERIENCE OF HER STARRING AS MRS COLUMBO FOR NINE DREADNAUGHT-LIKE EPISODES by giving her juicy parts on MsW.
The two Columbos had just three things in common: the name (at least for a while), the network, and the production studio. The original Columbo ended its NBC run in the late 1970s. NBC was in the ratings toilet by this time, and they were looking for anything they could get to right the ship. They (really, Fred Silverman) pitched the idea of a Columbo spin-off, and it was made by Universal, but the original Columbo producers wanted nothing to do with it. In fact, Mrs. C.'s name was changed (along with the show's title) after a disastrous reception from the first season.

Columbo itself was what we'd probably call a limited series these days - only 8 episodes or so per season. This was because it was part of a Universal package of mystery/detective shows that rotated through the year. Each show had an average of 8 episodes, and there would be 3 or 4 shows that would rotate weekly under the series umbrella title. They called this a wheel series. McCloud and McMillan & Wife were part of the rotation.
Yes, I remember that rotating series. I think several others were added along the way. Wasn't Banacek part of it too at one point?
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